![]() Granted, this takes place relatively early in Sauron's role as Dark Lord he has grown more powerful in the intervening millenia. And Sauron, sitting in his black seat in the midst of the Temple, had laughed when he heard the trumpets of Ar-Pharazôn sounding for battle and again he had laughed when he heard the thunder of the storm It was greater far than aught he had looked for, hoping only for the death of the Númenóreans and the defeat of their proud king. It's worth noting that when he sends Ar-Pharazôn and his men to invade Valinor, Sauron stayed behind:įor Sauron himself was filled with great fear at the wrath of the Valar, and the doom that Eru laid upon sea and land. However, even if Sauron could get to Aman, he's not dumb enough to try. The odds of them letting Sauron through are astronomically slim. It would be supremely unlikely to succeed, but not impossible.įinally, it's possible that the Valar themselves individually decide whether each ship is allowed to pass into Aman. If so, then Sauron would have to fight all the way to the Grey Havens (before the inhabitants destroyed all the ships). It's also possible that the Elven-ships are under some enchantment that allows only them to pass into Aman. If so, then Sauron could probably build his own ships and (eventually) find it. There are a lot of unknowns.įor example, it's possible that the Straight Way is accessible by any ship on the correct bearing. What's unclear to me is how the Straight Way works. The Elves are, of course, allowed to follow this road to Aman. As dlanod's answer to the linked question notes, Aman has been removed from the circles of the world, and is only accessible via the Straight Way. If Aragorn said "You must serve forever", Sauron would be deprived of an army forever. Sauron would still exist, but he would be a more or less powerless eye stuck on top of a tower, with no hope of raising and army for a thousand years. If he said "You must serve for a thousand years" instead of "You have to fight one battle", then the Army of the Dead could have roamed through Middle-earth and Mordor killing off every Orc and goblin Sauron enlisted. *Note 2 - granted, this wouldn't get rid of Sauron, but Aragorn was free to set the terms of the Army of the Dead's deployment. In any case, this question isn't about whether the ship would get there safely if passage were granted - it is about whether passage WOULD be granted and whether it would solve the problem. *Note - since sea monsters never seem to attack ships carrying Elves, Valar, or Maiar to the Undying Lands, despite Sauron's hatred of them, the sea monster issue is irrelevant. So basically, the overall question is: Why not send the Ring to the Undying Lands? Since Humans (and/or Elves and/or Hobbits or whoever) took the initiative in getting the Ring there, it would be more or less the same as bringing it to Mordor and destroying it, but less suffering and loss of life would be required in the process. yes, then wouldn't it be feasible for someone to just bring the Ring to the Undying Lands and give/send it to someone who could safely hold on to it? Say, perhaps, Eru Ilúvatar, Manwë, Elbereth, Círdan, etc.? This wouldn't require the person in question to actively intercede in worldly affairs - they would merely have to accept a gift and keep it forever. Could the Ring be taken to the Undying Lands, perhaps by Frodo, Bilbo, or Elrond?Īssuming the answers to these questions are 1.Is Elrond strong enough to resist the Ring?.Is the One Ring still dangerous even if Sauron can't possibly get to it?.Can Sauron get to the Undying Lands? ( another question seems to have produced the answer to this - "No").This is sort of a multi-part question that adds up to one larger question:
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